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Started by DesertRose, June 21, 2020, 07:13:16 PM

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[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:09:19 PM EDT] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:09:32 PM EDT] <anlarye> hi KK
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:09:37 PM EDT] <derynifank> Hi KK, good to see you
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:09:39 PM EDT] <Bee> Hi KK
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:10:33 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi KK!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:10:40 PM EDT] <KK> Hello, all. Sorry I'm late. Cameron was remotely helping me figure out why my printer wasn't talking to my computer. Bad power strip. But he's brilliant!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:10:46 PM EDT] <Bee> topic ubder duscussion,KK--what's your morning beverage of choice?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:11:11 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ah, yes, power issues will make for cranky electronics every time.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:11:23 PM EDT] <anlarye> wondered if it was something like that
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:11:23 PM EDT] <KK> Teas, Earl Grey, hot--and long before Jean Luc made it popular.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:11:31 PM EDT] <anlarye> LOL
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:11:36 PM EDT] <KK> I also take milk and sugar.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:11:39 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hey, Capt. Picard knows what's up. ;)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:12:04 PM EDT] <anlarye> you know i read that in his voice
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:12:12 PM EDT] <KK> Of course.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:12:13 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Mom does Yorkshire Red on weekdays and Gold is her weekend morning treat.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:13:14 PM EDT] <anlarye> KK, we have a new user on the forum who can't make chat (today?) but had this observation and question:
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:13:19 PM EDT] <anlarye> In The Harrowing of Gwynedd, Kai Descantor dies destroying the portal in the sacristy of the Valoret cathedral. Javan later confirms that it was indeed destroyed.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:13:19 PM EDT] <anlarye> In The Quest for Saint Camber, Arilan and Duncan use the portal in the sacristy of the Valoret cathedral to transfer to Rhemuth. (I believe the sacristy portal is also functional when an attempt is made to attack Brion shortly before his crowning, in one of the books of the Childe Morgan trilogy, when Rhydon got the scar on his face...).
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:13:19 PM EDT] <anlarye> Kai Descantor destroyed the portal. There are no Deryni in the church hierarchy for the next, I believe, 200 years. How and why is the portal functioning in King Brion and King Kelson's time?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:13:21 PM EDT] <DesertRose> In one of those "age brings wisdom" moments, my high-school Latin teacher had a raging crush on Sir Patrick. At the time I thought she was batty; now I get it.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:13:23 PM EDT] <KK> Thunder and rain have started here, so Booker has gone under my desk and pressed against my feet. Maybe he thinks I'm some sort of lightning rod, that will protect him.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:13:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Aw, poor pupper.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:14:37 PM EDT] <anlarye> you are Booker's mama ... mama's will always protect from bad things like thunder
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:14:44 PM EDT] <Bee> Gus asleep on your bed?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:14:50 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My guess is, someone built a new one at some point in time, because Bishop Kai very definitely destroyed the Camber-era one.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:15:27 PM EDT] <KK> That's a Gotcha, Anlarye--though I suppose it could have been reinstated in the intervening years.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:15:42 PM EDT] <KK> Like I said.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:15:55 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The forum theory appears to be that someone did it either in 948 or around Killingford.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:16:47 PM EDT] <KK> That would make sense.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:17:14 PM EDT] <anlarye> jot that down as a note for the road to killingford so it doesnt get forgotten :)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:17:17 PM EDT] <DesertRose> ;)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:17:17 PM EDT] <Bee> Will anyone ever make a new portal in Coloth castle, to replace the one destroyed in Lewis Ap Norval's time?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:17:27 PM EDT] <KK> Gus is asleep somewhere else, Bee. Thunder doesn't seem to threaten him.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:18:12 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It frankly boggles my mind that no one has yet (re: Coroth Portal); my guess is that Alaric doesn't know where it is, not that it doesn't exist (although if it hasn't been used in a while, it may no longer be safe TO use).
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:18:51 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And to be fair, Portal construction appears to be quite the endeavor, so maybe no one HAS done it yet.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:19:37 PM EDT] <derynifank> The CC seeems to be the main obstacle to construction of more portals, including in Coroth Castle. Have never really understood their obstructionism
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:19:50 PM EDT] <DesertRose> One would think after the establishment of the Schola, someone would take the time to build one, though, given Alaric's importance to the Crown of Gwynedd.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:20:24 PM EDT] <anlarye> perhaps one is built after the events in KKB
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:20:43 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Elitism is a hell of a drug, and certainly some of the older Councillors have been sipping that draught deeply for a while now. Sofiana and Barrett seem to be less so, but holy cats, Vivienne!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:20:55 PM EDT] <derynifank> I afree. Thought the CC finally accepted that one is either Dernyi or not. It not a question of degree of blood purity
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:21:27 PM EDT] <Bee> Maybe the CC is afraid someone will try to re-do lewis Ap Norval's experiment.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:22:05 PM EDT] <DesertRose> AND Alaric's Healing ability. One would think that the Council would get off their collective high horses for the chance to study a spontaneous Healer.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:22:10 PM EDT] <KK> Notes jotted.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:22:22 PM EDT] <derynifank> I was hoping with the addition of Sofiana and Azim and the probable retirement of older counselors might finally change this
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:22:38 PM EDT] * anlarye likes Lewys ap Norfal
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:22:40 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, I concur with anlarye about possibly one being built after the end of KKB.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:23:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hopefully, but change is a slow-moving creature, especially among people who are already disposed to be on the alert, as Deryni have been in Gwynedd since the Regency.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:23:47 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Getting much better in Brion's and Kelson's reigns, of course, but still.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:23:55 PM EDT] <Bee> IIRC. Tiercel de Claron was the one who suggested that Deryniness could be inherited completely from just one parent.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:24:08 PM EDT] <anlarye> i liked him too
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:24:09 PM EDT] <KK> Yeah, those were interesting times, as in the Chinese curse.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:25:12 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, Tiercel had a lot of accurate ideas, to be fair, and he paid an awfully high price for his presumptions, too. I feel a bit sorry for him; he was a smart, ambitious young man whose ambitions came back to bite him in the . . . well.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:25:19 PM EDT] <Bee> It bothered me that after Tiercel's death, Arilan (?) said some thing about Tiercel being a snob about Deryniness.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:25:20 PM EDT] <derynifank> Unfortunately, Tiercel died trying to prove that more than one Haldane could hold the power at one time. And that led to a whole host of problems
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:26:29 PM EDT] <KK> But I couldn't just let them live ordinary, uneventful lives.... ;-)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:26:29 PM EDT] <Bee> Then Kelson allowed Nigel access to some powers.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:26:35 PM EDT] <anlarye> he did prove it. but his subject was a bit too greedy
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:26:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I think Arilan was at least somewhat right, though; I think Tiercel thought that he (himself) as a trained Deryni was a match for Conall, which he probably would have been in a fair fight.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:26:50 PM EDT] <derynifank> I too felp sorry for him because I think he did have good ideas but was not supported in trying to explore those ideas
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:27:00 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Well, no, then there's no story, KK. ;)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:27:12 PM EDT] <KK> You got it!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:27:50 PM EDT] <DesertRose> And then we haven't all this food for thought and discussion. ;)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:28:24 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I'm still on my Adept kick. Reading Death of an Adept now.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:29:04 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I have a book I need to read because it's not mine (on loan from a friend) but I keep not reading it because I don't have enough of my brain present and I know my friend wants to discuss it with me so I feel like I ought to read it with brain engaged, LOL.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:29:17 PM EDT] <Bee> I still think Conall would have turned out better if Nigel had sent him to live in Carthmoor, where he could learn to appreciate his own inheritance.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:29:21 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hi Everyone!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:29:28 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Maybe I should read it once, brain engaged or not, and then read it again for discussion.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:29:32 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Jerusha2.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:29:36 PM EDT] <anlarye> hi Jerusha!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:30:04 PM EDT] <Bee> Hi Jerusha! Are you having a heat wave in your part of Canada?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:30:10 PM EDT] <DesertRose> BTW, someone in the SCA is running a Zoom chat every weekend under the name "Jerusha's Embroidery [or Whatever] Salon."
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:30:15 PM EDT] <KK> Speaking of stories, I floated the idea of a new Deryni anthology to Betsy Mitchell, my friendly editor at Open Road, and she's taking it to her bosses on Tuesday. With the present economy, there would be no advance, and it wouild probably be an e-book, but that's ok. She liked the idea.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:30:21 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Oh, nice!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:30:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yes, it is very hot and humid
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:30:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Your stories or fan stories or yes?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:31:13 PM EDT] <derynifank> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:31:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yea!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:31:23 PM EDT] <derynifank> That's very exciting KK
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:31:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hi derynifank
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:31:27 PM EDT] <KK> Fan stories, and one from me as well, plus my intros to the fan stories.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:31:32 PM EDT] <anlarye> that's great. it would be good to have another deryni book to read. even if it's only an ebook. but i would still pay money to get it in paperback
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:31:43 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Oh, yay! Do you already have the stories gathered?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:31:50 PM EDT] <anlarye> tons of fan stories on the forums
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:31:59 PM EDT] <DesertRose> So basically, a Deryni Tales, Vol 2.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:32:02 PM EDT] <Bee> Weather is upside down in the northeast--hotter in the north, cooler in the south.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:32:09 PM EDT] <KK> It's possible we might get a paperback. Betsy didn't mention that'; I was just surmising, because of no advance.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:32:23 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We were warmer than Florida today
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:32:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> If it sells well enough in e-editions, the publisher might be inclined to make a paper run.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:32:39 PM EDT] <anlarye> canada is warmer than florida?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:32:48 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> It is today!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:33:05 PM EDT] <Bee> warmer than Massachusetts, anyway.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:33:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> At least my part of Canada. It's a big country
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:33:15 PM EDT] <KK> No, I'll have to scour the forums once I know the project is a go. And there still might be some in back issues of Deryni Archives.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:33:17 PM EDT] <anlarye> that's ok there were days last winter that it was warmer than antartica than it was in iowa
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:33:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It's about 90 F/32 C here today.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:34:03 PM EDT] <Bee> It's 90 degrees F in my apartment right now.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:34:07 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ooh, would you want submissions? Because I'd be willing to submit Miracles for official publication. (And it isn't ridiculously long.)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:34:14 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I'm sure it will all be very good, KK
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:34:18 PM EDT] <KK> My phone says it's 78 here, and I haven't been out other than to bring in the Sunday paper.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:34:36 PM EDT] <KK> Yes, I'll take submissions, DR.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:34:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (I wouldn't expect anything but credit for having written it, BTW.)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:34:51 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We managed to score a portable air conditioner. Woo hoo!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:35:21 PM EDT] <KK> Woo hoo, indeed! How can anyo9ne survive in such heat without A/C?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:35:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Having something published would be the ultimate bucket list score
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:35:54 PM EDT] <DesertRose> What format would you want, KK? I'm guessing a Word doc, yeah?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:35:57 PM EDT] <anlarye> 89 degrees today not counting the heat index
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:36:05 PM EDT] <Bee> I have an AC, but it's not connected.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:36:15 PM EDT] <KK> I certainly hope I can make the project fly.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:36:15 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Oh dear, Bee!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:36:31 PM EDT] <KK> Word is perfect, DR.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:36:33 PM EDT] <DesertRose> There is a reason that Florida was mostly summer homes and farms before the advent of widespread air conditioning.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:36:36 PM EDT] * anlarye has central air and it is running at like 70/71 degrees for the inside temp
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:37:17 PM EDT] <Bee> ?I thought you were in Australia, Anlarye.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:37:28 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I suppose I'm jumping the gun a bit, aren't I, LOL? Let us know what Open Road has to say first. :D
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:37:31 PM EDT] * anlarye is bynw
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:37:50 PM EDT] <Bee> OOOPS? Another bynw???
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:37:53 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I think you're thinking of Alkari, Bee.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:38:01 PM EDT] <KK> (I've just nudged 70 lbs. of black dog so that I can get my feet farther under the desk--and closer to my keyboard--but it's still a stretch.)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:38:14 PM EDT] <derynifank> If youhave some time, KK you should check out the RPG Ghossts of the Past. Some really good writing on there too
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:38:14 PM EDT] <Bee> Yes, that must be it, DR.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:38:16 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Booker, move your fuzzy butt!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:38:18 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We can always jump in the lake, which is very cold and then be eaten by blackflies
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:38:42 PM EDT] <DesertRose> (No, I don't tell Carys to move her fuzzy butt multiple times a day. What would give you such an idea?)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:38:56 PM EDT] <anlarye> derynifank, that story isnt completed yet though. maybe in a few more months of time
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:39:01 PM EDT] <KK> Being eaten by blackflies does not sound pleasant.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:39:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> It is not. Then there are the deerflies, which are their own version of Armageddon
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:39:33 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ow
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:39:39 PM EDT] <anlarye> being eaten by any flys doesnt sound pleasant
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:39:45 PM EDT] <Bee> I hear mosquitos in Alaska are also terrible.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:39:49 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> It is not!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:39:49 PM EDT] <DesertRose> We get yellow flies around here. Mom got bitten by one a few days ago.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:39:55 PM EDT] <derynifank> No, getting eaten up by black flies really doen't sound good
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:39:57 PM EDT] <KK> Oh, I know about deerflies. THey also like to bite horses.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:40:05 PM EDT] <KK> Horses do not appreciate it.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:40:17 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Neither do I!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:40:18 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I bet not!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:40:56 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> And they are very persistant
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:41:07 PM EDT] <KK> And then there are the murder hornets. Getting stung by a yellow jacket was bad enough. Once was more than enough.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:41:09 PM EDT] <Bee> That's why two horses will stand head-to-tail and tail-to-head.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:41:10 PM EDT] <DesertRose> One of the people on one of my SCA Discord servers has a baby horse and occasionally posts pictures and video of the baby horse doing baby horse things; she is a cute little thing, and entirely too smart.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:41:35 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yellow jackets and their ilk are why I carry an Epi-Pen (well, two of them because that's how they're packaged).
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:42:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I have no love for an insect with a sharp, pointy end
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:42:27 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Or front
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:42:54 PM EDT] <KK> Big nope on getting stung by anything.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:42:58 PM EDT] <anlarye> murder hornets ... those need to be exterminated if detected. invasive species and our bees wont survive their invasion
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:43:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> That is the plan on the west coast
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:43:52 PM EDT] <Bee> Are murder hornets the same as killer bees?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:43:59 PM EDT] <anlarye> no
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:44:00 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> No, bee
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:44:32 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> But choose to avoid either one
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:44:44 PM EDT] <KK> True, but I've not heard much about them of late, other than in terms of disasters to go along with the plague. Hopefully they'll stay in the Pacific Northwest and be wiped out there. The poor bees were already having problems before the murder hornets came along. I even saw a video of a mouse that was stung by one; lasted about 2 minutes, poor thing.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:45:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Oh dear
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:45:36 PM EDT] <Bee> only one!?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:45:41 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Though we have an abundance of mice this year
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:47:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Cultivate the friendship of an outdoor cat?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:47:23 PM EDT] <KK> Mice aren't that bed. But then, there was the night when Scott and I discovered a mouse in our toaster, happily before we tried to toast something. Couildn't get it out, so we put the toaster on its side out on the back porch while we went to Walmart to get a new toaster. It was gone by the time we got back.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:47:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I would if DS3 was not allergic to cats. Bummer
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:47:31 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I know you can't have an indoor cat because allergies, but cats are excellent rodent control.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:47:45 PM EDT] <anlarye> eeeeeewwww
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:47:52 PM EDT] <anlarye> yeah i would get a new toaster too after that
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:47:53 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Maybe you need one of the smaller terrier type dogs?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:48:05 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I have scratch marks on my toaster from inquisitive mice
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:48:13 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Some of those breeds were developed to hunt mice and rats.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:48:31 PM EDT] <Bee> Some places use catch, neuter, release to deal with feral cats.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:48:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Do you think a Scottish deerhound would do? (just kidding)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:48:41 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:48:44 PM EDT] <KK> I think the mice go for the crumb tray under the toaster, and some get too ambitious.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:49:09 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> It would be nice if they did not invite their friends for a party
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:49:14 PM EDT] <Bee> Terriers are supposed to be good rat-catchers.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:50:25 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yeah, we have a cat colony (I don't think they're feral, though) by my building, and a lot of them have tipped ears (indicating they've been trapped, neutered, and returned).
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:50:42 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We bought a sonic device that discourages mice from coming inside. We are still catching at least a mouse a day in the breezeway
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:51:28 PM EDT] <KK> Do you kill them, or trap and release?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:51:32 PM EDT] <DesertRose> We also have ducks. I got to watch a duck parade the other day; there were three adult ducks and about twelve little ducklings all waddling along the driveway in front of my building.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:51:45 PM EDT] <Bee> I had a mouse infestation in a former apartment.(I'm a lousy housekeeper.)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:51:48 PM EDT] <KK> Awwww
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:51:50 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> We do trap and release. DH takes them down the road a FAR peice
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:52:10 PM EDT] <Bee> cats or mice?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:52:14 PM EDT] <DesertRose> It was super cute, the adult ducks making sure the babies got wherever they were going safely.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:52:49 PM EDT] <KK> A friend in Ireland tried that, and the mice always came back. He blacked the tail with a magic marker so he could see that it was the same mouse.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:53:16 PM EDT] <Bee> A house mouse wants to live ina house.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:53:19 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> They would have to come a long way down the highway to get back
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:53:26 PM EDT] <KK> Obviously the mouse knew where he wanted to live.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:53:30 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> That
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:53:55 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> is OK, Bee, if it's not my house!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:54:04 PM EDT] <DesertRose> My mom has a story about ducks; she and my stepdad were on vacation without me (one of the summers I was in Arizona with bio-father) and they saw a mama duck with her ducklings. Mom made a crack about "she's got all her ducks in a row," and my stepdad (who grew up helping on his grandparents' farm) just then had the epiphany that that's where the expression originated.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:54:24 PM EDT] <KK> lol
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:54:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Mom laughed herself silly, because she was basically a city girl growing up.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:54:55 PM EDT] <Bee> I'm not sure if Boston still celebrates Duckling Day.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:55:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> To be fair to my stepdad, he's a spatial-relations person, not so much a language person.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:55:22 PM EDT] <DesertRose> I think so. Julianne posted something about it to her Facebook not so terribly long ago (a couple of years, maybe).
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:55:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> The _Make Way For Ducklings_ book, yeah, Bee?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:56:16 PM EDT] <Laurna> HelloAll. My computer has been running an update for the last 2 hours. finally remembered the laptop.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:56:24 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Hi Laurna!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:56:25 PM EDT] <KK> I see photos of those bronze duckling wearing ranicoats and rainhats and rain boots. Very cute.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:56:33 PM EDT] <derynifank> Hi Laurna
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:56:35 PM EDT] <anlarye> hi Laurna
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:56:48 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Yup, I think they put up the bronze duck statues for the 50th or 75th anniversary of the publication?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:56:52 PM EDT] <Bee> there was a story about a little boy looking at the statues of Mama and her 8 ducklings. he wanted to know where the father was.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:57:09 PM EDT] <Laurna> awe
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:57:26 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hi Laurna!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:57:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Mom read that book to me when I was little, and I read it to the Pod-Child when she was little. I want to think we read it to the Pod-Child's godson, too.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:58:17 PM EDT] <Bee> I would have told him that the father had gone ahead to look for a good hiding place for their new nest. He'll meet them when they reach the pond.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:58:37 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> How are the puppies, Laurna?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:58:39 PM EDT] <KK> That's a good explanation, Bee.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:58:42 PM EDT] <Laurna> sweet answer
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:59:04 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That book and the Frances stories (and of course Dr. Seuss) are children's-lit classics.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:59:10 PM EDT] <Laurna> Jerusha they are growing up and playing all the time. until they crash
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:59:14 PM EDT] <DesertRose> That is a good explanation, Bee.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:59:29 PM EDT] <KK> Puppies have all gone to their forever homes, yes?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:59:36 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Kind of like GS3
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:59:43 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Young creatures of various species have two speeds: fast and asleep. ;)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:59:51 PM EDT] <KK> Yes.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:59:53 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yep
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [7:59:56 PM EDT] <Laurna> I am taking to painting dish soap on all the corners of the furnature
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:00:08 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Teething?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:00:09 PM EDT] <DesertRose> To discourage teething on your upholstery?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:00:12 PM EDT] <KK> That keeps them from chewing?
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:00:15 PM EDT] <anlarye> DesertRose, including humans
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:00:16 PM EDT] <DesertRose> LOL
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:00:22 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Indeed, anlarye.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:00:24 PM EDT] <Laurna> They chew everything
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:01:02 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Silence in a home with young children or puppies or kittens or young any-critter is suspicious unless you know for a fact that said youngsters are asleep.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:01:22 PM EDT] <KK> True.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:01:29 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> I had a Sheltie who I thought just liked to lay quietly behind my rocking chair. Until I found the end of one rocker gnawed away!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:01:37 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Ack!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:01:39 PM EDT] <Laurna> yes very suspous
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:01:58 PM EDT] <Laurna> oops
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:01:58 PM EDT] <DesertRose> Shelties are smart; pup probably realized that you'd say No if you knew about the chewing, so they chewed quietly. ;)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:01:58 PM EDT] <Bee> Mom once said that when a child is missing, you check the most dangerous place first.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:02:37 PM EDT] <Laurna> agreed Bee
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:03:04 PM EDT] <KK> I've got to go get some dinner, which I would have done before chat, except that that's when Cameron called to sort out my printer. Now I'm starving!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:03:24 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Hope you find something good to eat, KK!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:03:37 PM EDT] <Laurna> So Glad Cameron Called
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:03:57 PM EDT] <anlarye> have a good dinner Katherine. Thanks for coming
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:04:05 PM EDT] <anlarye> always good to have tech support in the family
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:04:08 PM EDT] <derynifank> enjoy your dinner KK. We definitely don't want you starving
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:04:10 PM EDT] <KK> See you guys next week, same time. Maybe I'll have word on that anthology by then. And DR, you can send me your story whenever you're ready.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:04:10 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Yes, and have a good week
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:04:27 PM EDT] <Bee> Enjoy your meal, KK. Thanks for coming. See you next week, I hope.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:04:37 PM EDT] <Laurna> Good Night KK
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:04:44 PM EDT] <KK> I think it's Swedish meatballs tonight, courtesy of Freshly. They're pretty good meals. :-)
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:05:06 PM EDT] <Eris> <Jerusha2> Nighters, KK
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:05:15 PM EDT] <KK> ?me steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:05:23 PM EDT] <KK> Nighters, all.
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:05:27 PM EDT] <anlarye> nighters!
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:05:32 PM EDT] <derynifank> night kk
[Sunday, June 21, 2020] [8:05:34 PM EDT] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)