Crowns & Titles

[DoctorM]

It's easy to imagine her sitting with Christian and Aurelian thinking of items to add to her full royal title...especially items designed to anger both Wencit and Kelson.

Duchess of Haldane? Lady of Cardosa?

It's easy to imagine her sitting with Christian and Aurelian thinking of items to add to her full royal title...especially items designed to anger both Wencit and Kelson.

Duchess of Haldane? Lady of Cardosa?

I just may add those!

[DoctorM]

At least in my AU, Wencit is at war with Charissa because his planned war against Brion Haldane simply continued after Brion's death and the coup at Rhemuth. Wencit's goal is to occupy eastern Gwynedd at worst, and at best to become overlord of Gwynedd.

As for Torenth, oddly, often they were referred to as just "King of Torenth", or when Liam was swearing fealty in The King's Justice, ch. 6, "I, Liam, King of Torenth and all the lands therein, ..."

Luckily I remembered that "Seven Tribes" was in there, and Google Books has it. High Deryni, near the start of ch. 3, Lionel is giving the invitation to Cardosa to Bran Coris. "My lord Earl of Marley, Wencit Furstán Padishah, King of Torenth and Tolan and the Seven Tribes to the East, desires the honor of your presence ..." (I have some dim memory of "Lord of Arjenol". But that couldn't be in this book, because Lionel is the Duke and doesn't get offed until almost the end. Maybe it was a dream sequence on my part; maybe it's elsewhere in King Kelson's Bride and applies to Liam.)

Weird wording, because it implies that Tolan was a kingdom, when it was a duchy in Deryni Rising. Wencit is calling himself its ruler as Charissa's heir, or possibly overlord. (I had the impression that Tolan was held as a fief, but now I'm not sure I remember that being stated.) I've only read the latest installments of this AU, so I don't know why Wencit is warring on Charissa. If he considered the Shadowed One to be a disobedient vassal, then he might have declared her duchy forfeit and taken the title. If she was a neighbor instead, he might have given some sort of justification like she not being the rightful heiress. So something along these lines (meaning Wencit adding "of Tolan") might do quite well in the current story.

I thought the killijálay might have the full set of titles as mentioned above, but in King Kelson's Bride, ch. 19, Liam is called "Liam-Lajos ho Phourstanos padishah" pretty consistently.