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Started by DesertRose, December 08, 2024, 07:34:47 PM

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[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:01 PM EST] Join web62 has joined this channel.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:09 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Is that our KK?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:15 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> They're well past the age of being embarrassed by anything they did as young children, or even as teens.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:19 PM EST] Nick web62 is now known as KK.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:23 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Hi KK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:30 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi KK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:31 PM EST] <KK> C'est moi!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:34 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> How ya doing, KK?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:44 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> C'est vous! 🙂
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:10:59 PM EST] <The_Bee> Knee still doing well?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:12:24 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> We seem a little sparse tonight, people-wise
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:12:43 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> The elves are well represented, though
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:12:45 PM EST] <KK> Doing well. Surgeon inspected the knee and pronounced it doing very well. ack in 10 mo. for Xrays and fial sign-off, to conform tht it has settled in properly.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:13:04 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Glad it is doing well, KK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:13:10 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Yay knee!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:13:55 PM EST] <The_Bee> But you need to rent better fingers, KK ;D
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:14:01 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Does that mean that the living room and office are getting de-cluttered?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:14:34 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Man, if that's the secret to getting a house decluttered, maybe I need knee surgery! 😉
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:14:56 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> that only works if the knee is what's keeping you cluttered in the first place.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:15:08 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> (Or maybe a foot replacement. It hurts to walk these days, and given that's been going on since September, I'm losing my sense of humor about it.)
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:15:09 PM EST] <KK> Ah, yes, those rental fingers. Daphne was sitting between keyboard and screen and I couldn't see properly. She has now been moved along a bit.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:15:32 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I remember the "cat between user and keyboard" issue
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:15:57 PM EST] <The_Bee> Think Daphne will help you de-clutter?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:16:44 PM EST] <KK> She's been doing a good job thus far. Ad I actually culled stuff in two cupboards yesterday.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:16:58 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Whoa! You're The Woman!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:17:08 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> More like the bad back, the shoulders, the inability to lift any weight, and a knee that occasionally wants to play jokes on me, and now plantar fasciitis in both feet. I would like to find out exactly when my body's warranty ran out and see if I can get it extended!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:17:15 PM EST] <KK> Definite progress.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:17:57 PM EST] <The_Bee> K, Houndmistress left hellos; she's too tired to chat after a late party.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:17:58 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh, plantar fasciitis sucks! Do you do the golf ball trick?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:18:02 PM EST] <KK> Evie, is your foot pain actually foot, or some oter part of leg?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:18:53 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's the foot. Specifically the heel and the arch area. I've been using a tennis ball and doing some exercises, wearing special insoles, special socks to help stretch the ligament, etc. It might be working slightly, but only slightly.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:18:53 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Yeah, a lot of my foot pain ended up being triggered by my calf.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:19:01 PM EST] <KK> Erg, Evie!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:19:14 PM EST] <KK> Erg, Evie.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:19:36 PM EST] <KK> Erg, Evie!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:19:37 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I can stand and walk for maybe ten-fifteen minutes at a time, but much after that and it will hurt for hours. Oh, and I'm using ice on it when I can. That helps.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:20:13 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Hi everyone
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:20:18 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Hey DFK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:20:19 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Stepping out of bed in the morning feels like someone is driving a nail through both heels. So that's fun.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:20:21 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Hi DFK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:20:21 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi DFK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:21:02 PM EST] <KK> What do the docs say is causing the problem?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:21:13 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Oh, it's plantar fasciitis
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:21:40 PM EST] <KK> What causes that, and how do they fix it
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:21:52 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Haven't been to an appointment, but one of the doctors at the clinic next door to my office heard my symptoms and confirmed that it's pretty textbook, aside from me having it in both feet rather than just one.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:22:36 PM EST] <The_Bee> Have you scheduled an appointment?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:22:39 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> If it continues long enough for me to be desperate, in theory surgery may or may not help, but often it will go away on its own if you just keep doing everything I'm already doing.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:23:14 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> So I'm not eager to throw money at something that might not help and would add recovery time in order to cure something that tends to go away on its own eventually.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:23:33 PM EST] <The_Bee> I know "plantar," but what's fasciitis?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:23:39 PM EST] <KK> Eventually. Meanwhile....
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:23:56 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's an inflammation of the fascia, Bee.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:24:17 PM EST] <The_Bee> ah, ok.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:24:23 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> There's a strip of tissue (a ligament, I think?) between the heel and the front of the arch that is inflamed
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:24:33 PM EST] <KK> Those are the bands that hold the muscles together, Bee.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:24:52 PM EST] <The_Bee> thanks for the lesson.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:24:54 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> The surgery for plantar fasciitis is to snick a wee bit of it so that it will stretch easier
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:25:08 PM EST] * chris is still out
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:25:49 PM EST] <The_Bee> I had a plantar wart once. The doctor burned it off. OUCG!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:26:12 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Been there done that, Bee. Agreed about the "ouch!*
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:26:21 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> @Evie.delacourt have you tried getting fitted with arch supports? Do you have the good Feet store where you are? I know a lot of peple who have benefitted greatly from those including GS1.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:26:31 PM EST] <KK> Plantar fasciitis is not fun, I know that.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:26:49 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yes, I have three different brands of special inserts made for plantar fasciitis. They help, but don't magically cure.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:26:53 PM EST] * chris is at a fathom event in the theater. king + country little drummer boy
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:27:27 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Plantar Fsciitis is one of the conditions that the arch supports are supposed to help.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:28:03 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yes, they do help, but it's the difference between being in pain and being in constant agony, not the difference between having slight pain or no pain.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:28:24 PM EST] <KK> Yes. Because when your feet hurt, it's hard to get excited about just about anything.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:28:41 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> It's also the difference between walking for 30 minutes until your feet hurt or walking 5 minutes until your feet hurt
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:29:00 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Rest and keeping my feet up (and iced occasionally) are doing the most to keep them from hurting. But it's hard to get anything done if you can't stand and walk for more than a few minutes at a time.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:29:16 PM EST] <KK> And t can fee like walking on hot coals or razor blades. Not fun.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:29:26 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Exactly!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:29:27 PM EST] * The_Bee sends evie pain-free-feet woodgies.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:29:30 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> The arch supportd also hlpe with back pain because they realign the spine.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:30:06 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I feel like ...was it the wicked stepmother in Cinderella or Snow White who ended up having to dance on razor blades or something? Only make it a spike under each heel.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:30:10 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> The arch supports also help with back pain because they realign the spine.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:30:31 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> My back pain comes from an injury several years ago
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:30:31 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> All the pain of stigmata without the saintliness. I'm sorry to hear about it.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:30:40 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Sounds awful Evie
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:30:48 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Seems like one had to walk on razor blades and the othe was rolled down a hill in a barrell with spikes in it
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:31:01 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Neither sounds particularly pleasant
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:31:13 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Seems like one had to walk on razor blades and the othe was rolled down a hill in a barrell with spikes in it (Cinderella or Snow White question)
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:32:12 PM EST] <The_Bee> I remember the barrel with nails, but it wasn't Snow White or Cinderella.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:32:33 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Wicked stepmothers don't deserve pleasant. I wonder if we could get something similar for a certain really wicked chaperone.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:32:36 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh? what were you thinking that one was from?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:33:18 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Well, there was a brief passing mention in Pawns and Queens that gives you a heads-up on what happened to her, at least in vague general terms if not specifics.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:33:51 PM EST] <The_Bee> All I remember was a princess who ws betrayed by her maid on her way to her wedding. The princess had a horse named Falada.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:34:12 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> The only thing I remeber is that she left Gwynedd after only a month.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:34:21 PM EST] <The_Bee> a talking horse
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:34:37 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Hi Everyone!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:34:40 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> The only thing I remember is that she left Gwynedd after only a month.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:34:46 PM EST] <The_Bee> Hi jerusha
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:34:50 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Hi Jerusha
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:34:55 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Two months, DFK. And "left Gwynedd" would be one way to put it. 😉
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:35:10 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh! I remember Falada! Or some similar name. Didn't the horse's head get cut off and hang over the castle entrance? And the girl would talk to it there?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:35:19 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Hey Jerusha
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:35:20 PM EST] <The_Bee> Remind me: which novel was that?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:35:22 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Fiend
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:35:25 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> That sounds grim
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:35:50 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I remember it being a fairytale, but I don't remember which one exactly
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:35:54 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> A fiend in need is a fiend indeed
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:36:08 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> You would know
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:36:15 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Yep
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:36:16 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> You and Chris and Evie
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:36:17 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> 🙂
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:36:23 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I am an angel.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:36:25 PM EST] <The_Bee> Yes, Falada was beheaded. Can you remember the princess's name?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:36:36 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> 👼
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:36:48 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Words escape me, Evie
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:36:52 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> If you are a Henry Mancini fan, they are celebrating his 100th birthday on PBS Great Performances. Playiing my favorites: Pink Panther
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:37:07 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yes, but somehow they make their way to the forum anyway, Jerusha.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:37:14 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> The Goose Girl (looked it up)
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:37:40 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Sort of like "who let the dogs out"
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:37:53 PM EST] <The_Bee> Thanks, stnezz
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:38:02 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> and Moon River
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:38:09 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh neat!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:38:20 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> On the Pink Panther, Trying to find a cartoon posted on social media yesterday ...
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:39:25 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> It's a bit naughty: the Kink Panther. https://bsky.app/profile/lartist.bsky.social/post/3lcqm3btnyk2m
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:39:42 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> I'm trying to listen and chat at the same time so if it gets a little strange you will know why.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:40:07 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> If the chat gets strange, that would be normal for us. 😉
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:40:21 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> (I hope previews don't make it over to IRC!)
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:40:27 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> If the chat gets strange, I'm blaming TM, not DFK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:40:35 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> 😄
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:40:47 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Treu but I was thinking that i could gets things a little tangled up
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:41:00 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> TM, the preview came through. Then went away. It was... eye-opening.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:41:07 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Evie, why is there a bat flying around your avitar?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:41:25 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Because I ...somehow won it on Discord for doing...something?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:41:34 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Cool
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:42:11 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> So long as it doesn't drive you batty
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:42:27 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I honestly don't know. I logged in once and saw a message saying that I could add one of several frames to my avatar for reasons that I forget, and I was like "OK, why not?"
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:42:39 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Where is that trebuchet with fish
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:42:47 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Was it one of those new Discord "quests"?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:42:54 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Maybe?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:43:05 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I think it was around Halloween-ish
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:43:12 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I want a dragon
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:43:21 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Me too
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:43:27 PM EST] <KK> Where are these avatars?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:43:51 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I think it was one of those occasional "Subscribe to Nitro!" offers that I never subscribe to, but might have been rewarded for just checking to see what the offer was about.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:43:58 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I think you can only see them if you're on Discord
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:43:59 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> On Discord, KK.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:44:19 PM EST] <KK> Ah. I know nothing of discord.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:44:22 PM EST] <The_Bee> Maybe you need to be on Discord to see the avatars, KK.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:44:23 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> We each have a picture icon, similar to on Facebook
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:44:52 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> You should join Discord. You get lots more than you get on IRC.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:44:55 PM EST] <KK> What does Discord do, besides serve as a gateway to chat?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:44:56 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> ihmo
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:45:05 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> You should join us from Discord sometime if you can get someone to help you get on this way. Discord is great in that you can scroll back to see previous chat that you missed before you logged on.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:45:24 PM EST] Join bynw () has joined this channel.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:45:24 PM EST] Mode DeryniBot gives channel owner privileges to bynw.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:45:24 PM EST] Mode DeryniBot gives channel operator privileges to bynw.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:45:30 PM EST] * bynw is back home now
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:45:33 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> So you don't have to just hope to be in chat at the same time others are. You can leave a few lines and someone can get back to you later.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:45:34 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> You can catch up before checking in
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:45:49 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Plus there are several other channels on the Deryni server where we discuss other Deryni-related or Deryni-adjascent stuff.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:45:56 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Like our Deryni sims. 😄
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:46:05 PM EST] <The_Bee> I've also read about some sinister Discord doings; can't recall what.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:46:18 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> That's where the Sims live
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:46:39 PM EST] <The_Bee> What are Sims?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:46:46 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Discord also has voice channels if you want to use those, though we rarely do. And we have multiple channels, so for instance the Sims players have their own, there is one for discussing the current Deryni story game, there is one for discussing fanfic in general, etc.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:46:46 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> You mea Forgotten Shadows? 😉
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:47:13 PM EST] <bynw> you cant log from discord at least easily ... it's a very complicated proceedure and not worth the hassle
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:47:34 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Bee: several of us play Sims 4, which is a video game, and we've created Deryni characters in our Sims games and like to discuss what they are up to.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:47:48 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> This is one of the castle Laurna created in Sims
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:47:49 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479836521864888347/1315479980443959306/image.png?ex=67578fb3&is=67563e33&hm=38f2640257556bf18b72e86dc552445cb1b92457b842e1961a23357330273473&;
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:48:07 PM EST] <The_Bee> Sounds like fun. Is that how you plan your RPGs?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:48:18 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Some of my chat backgrounds in Zoom are also Sims settings
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:48:31 PM EST] <bynw> @Bee. No the Sims are totally different
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:48:36 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Nope, that's a completely different thing. Althouogh we have created our FS characters in Sims
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:48:38 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> There is some RPG planning in one of the Discord channels
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:48:53 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> But that's mostly in a different website, I think
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:49:22 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Just depends on whether or not we want the allow bynw to see our plans or not.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:49:31 PM EST] <The_Bee> I wish I could join a Deryni game, butI'm confused about how they work.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:50:00 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I do have a server I use for running things by my beta-readers on my fanfic-in-progress, which I keep separate from here since I don't want people seeing what may or may not end up in a story before it's posted.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:50:00 PM EST] * bynw can give a crash course in it someday
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:50:32 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Hey Bynw, you could run two RPGs at the same time, couldn't you?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:50:42 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> 'cause you're just that good?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:04 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Talk about confusion, I think that would do it
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:21 PM EST] <bynw> yes since i run the FS here and then play in another game on Tuesdays but that's in real time
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:26 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I could run a game. Y'all want Eistenmarckers to invade Gwynedd, right? 😉
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:28 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Again?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:38 PM EST] <KK> Sounds like a time-sink to me--which is what the internet already is.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:42 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Bee, the most important part of our Deryni game is just making sure you know how to write in collaboration with others. There's very little of a game involved for mot of it.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:44 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Hello, apologies for my tardiness.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:49 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Hey DR
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:49 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> He's good but I know i would get confused and probably end up doing sutff in the wrong game
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:54 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Hi DR
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:51:57 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Hi DR
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:52:00 PM EST] <The_Bee> HI DR
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:52:03 PM EST] <bynw> dont worry DR, I just got here too
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:52:11 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> KK, which? the Sims or the Forgotten Shadows game?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:52:12 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Hi DR
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:52:28 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> The answer to that is Yes, Nezz
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:52:30 PM EST] <bynw> KK, RPGs are a time sink but i've loved them for more than 40 years
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:52:37 PM EST] <KK> All of them. One of the many reasons I never got into D&D.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:52:48 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> I've been logging in IRC all along, and then when I got un-busy I took a moment to read back through the chat, LOL.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:52:50 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Like the SCA isn't a time sink?! 😄
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:53:04 PM EST] <bynw> the SCA is just LARPing
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:53:07 PM EST] <KK> Oh, it is--SCA, that is.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:53:09 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Ancestry dot com is a time sink.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:53:10 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> that's why I like this RPG; it's far more writing and not must gaming. It's a good 90% story-telling.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:53:24 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> that's why I like this RPG; it's far more writing and not much gaming. It's a good 90% story-telling.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:53:26 PM EST] <KK> Yes, DR!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:53:50 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Now that I'm actively writing again, I've had to let most of my other time sinks fall by the wayside.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:54:05 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> For me, D&D was the stepping stone I needed to start writing back in 1980
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:54:11 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> I had to log in because someone asked me a question and to answer it (at least to my own standards), I had to figure out how far a particular ancestress was from me.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:54:14 PM EST] <The_Bee> I'm used to the kind of game where the leader sets up the situation and we each choose our character.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:54:15 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Though I have peeked into my Sims game once or twice lately, but only for a few minutes each time
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:54:32 PM EST] * bynw is going to teach Kelly how to play RPGs in 2025
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:54:53 PM EST] <KK> Uh-o! Look out, Kelly!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:54:59 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> And I was like, this is why I don't log into this darn site, because I get distracted with the hints and why in hell do my middle two brothers have to have such common names and . . . .
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:55:14 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> That's sort of how this one works too. Each person created their character and ran it by Bynw for approval, and he came up with the basic setting and storyline for them to jump into
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:55:29 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> But it is so great to have you writing again. Pawns and queens is wonderful.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:55:44 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Thank you!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:56:03 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Because with our surname not being wildly uncommon in the anglophone world and then the middle brothers having really fairly common boys' names I get all these hints for people who are not, in point of fact, my brothers.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:56:09 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I'm hoping next term won't be as frantically busy and I'll have more energy and time to write
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:56:15 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Oh, yes, we love a good Evie epic.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:56:18 PM EST] <bynw> Forgotten Shadows, like Ghosts of the Past, is more storytelling within a game context given who the players are and how we are running it. And it seems to work so that's good.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:56:27 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> I can't tell you how many times I have reread Madens of mayhem
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:56:56 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <azdesertrose> Maidens of Mayhem is fun.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:57:07 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> BTW, if you can see graphics, here are the FS characters created in Sims.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:57:08 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479836521864888347/1315482327467556874/image.png?ex=675791e3&is=67564063&hm=4481d2c4b7b9c91f8ccf8bd6bfb4e7e19abbaa57357ca457621b9bd5bbddb314&;
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:57:10 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> There is an allusion to Maidens of Mayhem in the current story I'm posting. I think you might see that in one of this week's chapters, but I'm not sure.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:57:33 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I love Edgar doing the hand gesture behind Amy's head. 😄
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:57:42 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Love the rabbit ears, Nezz!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:57:45 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I know, that makes me giggle
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:58:20 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> So very true to form
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:59:06 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> And Evie, if Revanne were here, she'd point out that his name is Edwin, rather than Edgar. 🙂
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:59:08 PM EST] <The_Bee> We describe our character's actions in the thread, oand let oters respond.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:59:18 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> So she would
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:59:35 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Tired brain is tired
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [7:59:36 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Just curious, Bee... can you see the picture I just posted?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:00:42 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> If he were Edgar, I would expect to see a raven and a cask of amontillado
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:00:50 PM EST] <The_Bee> 5 people in costumes? Yes
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:01:09 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> k, thanks. I'm never quite sure what the folks on IRC can see
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:01:18 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Those are Sims, Bee. Specifically they are Sims of the game characters in Forgotten Shadows.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:01:38 PM EST] <bynw> IRC can see pictures now. Sometimes they are just links we have to click on to view
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:02:16 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Bee, those characters are (left to right) Airich, Amy, Edwin, Elspeth, and Bede.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:02:44 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> We need Bede in the middle so you can have them in alphabetical order
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:03:18 PM EST] <The_Bee> And the picture has vanished.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:03:28 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh, that's strange
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:03:49 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <bynw> was it a picture or a link Bee?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:03:49 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I still have it
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:04:02 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Does this help?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:04:14 PM EST] <The_Bee> it was both.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:04:37 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <bynw> you should be able to scroll up and view it still or click on it so it opens in another tab
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:04:56 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> I still have it
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:05:05 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <bynw> and no Evie. That doesn't help. IRC cannot see what you are replying to on Discord
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:05:12 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Drat
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:05:16 PM EST] <The_Bee> I scrolled back to the link. The picture's there.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:05:52 PM EST] <bynw> it only disapeared because it scrolled off
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:07:12 PM EST] <KK> I could see it.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:07:24 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> True. I had to scroll up to find it again but it was there.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:08:01 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I'm so pleased to hear that you IRCers can see the graphics now. 🙂
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:08:06 PM EST] <The_Bee> I see the picture in thelink, but no longer in the chat.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:09:31 PM EST] <bynw> we've been able to see them for some time
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:09:34 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> So KK. At what point in your writing career did you decide you wanted to tell a story about Saint Camber?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:10:15 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I mean, I assume it wasn't *just* because your publisher said "oh, we like your sales, can you give us more?"
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:13:38 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> ... "It's quiet." "*Too* quiet." ...
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:13:52 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> *chirp chirp chirp*
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:14:07 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> 🦗
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:14:31 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> or 🏏 Either one denotes not much happening.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:14:32 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Jiminy Cricket, that you?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:16:21 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> So Jerusha, what kind of fiendishness do you have coming up for us?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:16:22 PM EST] <KK> Got intrigued by Camber's story early on in the first trilogy.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:16:25 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> A bat ate him
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:16:56 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Not much yet, but I could get creative
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:16:56 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> so you knew that if they wanted a second series, Camber was who you wanted to research, huh?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:17:27 PM EST] * bynw likes Camber
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:17:30 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> What was known about Camber in the first trilogy -- he helped overthrow the Festils, got sainted, got desainted?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:18:16 PM EST] <KK> Jumping off point was a fascination with St. Thomas More and his well educated daughter, Margaret Roper, who was the inspiration for Evaine..
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:19:06 PM EST] <KK> Drew on some of the imagery in A Man for All Seasons.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:19:24 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Though hopefully Evaine didn't keep Camber's head (or maybe it was his heart?) in a box after his death like Margaret did with one of Sir Thomas's no-longer-in-use parts.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:19:30 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Jerusha, we should ask Bynw about the one idea we had about The Trio.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:19:45 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Yes, we should
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:20:13 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I mean, I'm a devoted daughter and all, but my Dad is going to have to settle for me not keeping one of his organs as a memento.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:20:35 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I don't need to ask which organ, do I?
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:20:38 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Stick with a nice picture
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:20:53 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I'll keep his piano instead. (J/K, he doesn't have one)
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:20:58 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Unless he was a church organist or something. Keeping his mighty Wurlitzer would be OK.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:21:21 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I've never heard *that* euphamism before, TM
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:21:28 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Oh my!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:21:59 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> sounds like a spicy romance novel, doesn't it? "He wielded his might Wulitzer like a pro."
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:22:36 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Careful with the foot pedals
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:22:38 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> LOL!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:22:52 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Found a reference to it on Wikipedia. "Thomas More was beheaded in 1535 for his refusal to accept the Acts of Supremacy and the Act of Succession (1534) of Henry VIII of England and swear allegiance to Henry as head of the English Church. Afterwards, More's head was displayed on a pike at London Bridge for a month. Roper bribed the man whose business it was to throw the head int <clipped messag
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:22:53 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> o the river to give it to her instead. She preserved it by pickling it in spices until her own death at the age of 39 in 1544. After her death, William Roper took charge of the head, and it is buried with him.[3][14]"
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:23:24 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Trying to imagine how that would go over in 2024. 😄
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:23:42 PM EST] <KK> Not too well, I'd guess.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:24:06 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Kind of makes me want to swear off of pickles
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:24:24 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> and Acts of Supremacy too.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:24:26 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Just makes me want to refuse More pickles. Some pickles would be fine.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:25:47 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> (But "A Man for All Seasons" is one of my favorite movies, and even before I knew that was the inspiration for Evaine, that's how I saw her.)
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:25:48 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> "Margaret, that's a great idea! You have a wise head!" "Yes, I know. It's over there in a barrel."
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:26:29 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> I've got some stuff to do before bed so think I will sign off now. Everyone have a good week, stay safe and healthy and try to survive the Christmas rush. See you next week.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:26:43 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> night DFK, take care
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:26:46 PM EST] <The_Bee> bye DFK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:26:47 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Have a good week, DFK!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:26:49 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> See you later, DFK. New chapter tomorrow.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:26:53 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> Night everyone
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:26:58 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <derynifank> 4
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:27:00 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> YES!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:27:10 PM EST] <The_Bee> good night and good week
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:27:17 PM EST] <bynw> cya DFK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:27:31 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Could we pickle Alixa
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:27:46 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> We want to pickle her...why? 😄
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:27:48 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Not Alixa, her chaperone!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:27:53 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I thought we liked Alixa!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:27:56 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> LOL! I wondered!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:04 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Rented fingers
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:14 PM EST] <KK> I think I'll also sign off now. Need supper. Have a good week, all, and try not to get too caught up in Christmas shopping madness.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:20 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I don't think I'd want to preserve Mme. Dardenay any longer than necessary.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:27 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Have a good week, KK
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:28 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Goodnight, KK!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:32 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Take care, KK and all!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:36 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> g'night Miss KK, you have a lovely week and an excellent Christmas season. 🙂
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:41 PM EST] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of purple sparkles.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:42 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I'm likely doing most if not all shopping online this year, drat these feet!
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:28:54 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Or making things to give
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:29:05 PM EST] <KK> Ta-ta to all.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:29:12 PM EST] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> There is a postal strike in Canada, so shipping is problematic. Online is th solution
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:29:13 PM EST] <The_Bee> Good supper, good night and good week> KK. Thanks for coming.
[Sunday, December 8, 2024] [8:29:17 PM EST] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: Client closed).
"If having a soul means being able to feel love, loyalty, and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans."

James Herriot (James Alfred "Alfie" Wight), when a human client asked him if animals have souls.  (I don't remember in which book the story originally appeared.)