KKChat -- 9 March 2025

[Bynw]

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[18:12] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Heya KKa... assuming that really is KK
[18:14] <web92> nick /KK
[18:14] * web92 is now known as KK
[18:14] <~bynw> Hi KK
[18:14] <KK> Hello!
[18:14] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> My goodness, is anyone else actually here?
[18:14] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Ah there we go
[18:14] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yay!
[18:15] * ~bynw is here, KK is here ... and a few others. the important people
[18:15] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh ok, just so long as we're here.
[18:15] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> How
[18:15] <KK> Yep, I had to install an update before I could come here.
[18:15] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> *preens and straightens my coronet*
[18:15] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> How's things with KK today?
[18:17] <KK> Things are good, though I managed to fritter away the whole weekend, because a certain tiger cat insisted on claiming my lap.
[18:17] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> They do that
[18:17] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> They love to incapussitate you
[18:17] * ~bynw still has one more day on his weekend
[18:18] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Oh, how did you score an extra day of weekend?
[18:18] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I wrote most of a novel with Luke stretched out across both of my wrists while I typed. I ended up writing a cat into the story.
[18:18] <~bynw> because i took an extra day off because of today
[18:18] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Maybe that will also help you ease into the time change
[18:19] <~bynw> oh i'm sure it will. waking up this morning was a little rough on the edges
[18:19] <~bynw> a very crappy bday present DST is
[18:19] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I think I've written most of my part of FS with at least one cat on some part of me
[18:20] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> But just think: you get so much more daytime in the evenings now
[18:20] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> HAPPY BIRTHDAY BYNW!
[18:20] <KK> Time change was easy here.  The computer and phone and Apple watch all made the change while I was sleeping.
[18:20] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I know, I love that!
[18:20] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yay, Laurna made it!
[18:20] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I am so not use to this time yet
[18:21] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> 'It is so pretty outside I have been playing in my garden
[18:21] <~bynw> yeah the only thing i have to reset is my manual clock on the wall, the oven and microwave, and the car
[18:21] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yeah, the phone and computer do the time change without any problems. It's my body that won't get with the program.
[18:21] <KK> Yes, Happy Birthday, Bynw.  And Happy Birthday in Heaven to my dear Scott, who would have been 78 today.
[18:21] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Oh, that's right, I had forgotten they shared the birthday!
[18:21] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> And Happy Birthday To our beloved Scott
[18:21] <~bynw> my computers, phone, watch (which i got as a bday present from my DW), and tablet all changed
[18:22] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Happy birthday in Heaven, Scott! *clinks glass*
[18:22] <~bynw> just 20 years difference between myself and scott
[18:22] <KK> I think my car dos the change on its own. I haven't done the stove or microwave yets.
[18:22] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> 🍷
[18:22] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I am still mostly on old time. It will take me days to make the full adjustment
[18:23] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I read that as "I think my cat does the change on its own," and I was wondering how Daphne managed to do that
[18:23] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> She's a clever kitty
[18:23] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> "It's always nap time, so what changed?"
[18:23] <KK> Wouldn't surprise me. She's a very clever cat.
[18:24] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> My dogs seemed to want their food what to me was an hour early.  So I don't know how they figured it out before I did
[18:24] <~bynw> for Scott, and Ambush, they are both The Macallen men. in fact it was Scott at Darkover one year that got Ambush interested in it
[18:24] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Toasting and hugs
[18:24] <KK> Ah, yes. That was one of his favorites.
[18:25] <KK> And he grew to love Irish whiskey as well.
[18:25] <~bynw> He shared some with my and Tika's son Ambush/Dawson at Darkover ... Ambush got buried with a bottle of it
[18:25] <KK> Ah, to sped him on  his way. Nice.
[18:25] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> To the Macallen men! *clinks again*
[18:27] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> KK, there was a question earlier today. Camber's time had Militant clerical Orders.  but  those were disbanded. The question is in Kelson's time were their any Militant clerical Orders left?  We know Denis Arilan had an army he could send to Wincit. but were any of them Militant Clerical Orders  or mostly just soldiers not affiliated with specific Orders?
[18:27] <KK> When Scott was in hospice, he got one of the docs there to write him a prescription for champagne, which he loved, and half a dozen of his friends duly brought a bottle there and they all enjoyed it.
[18:28] * ~bynw keeps playing around with his apple watch to figure out things he can do with it ... techie toys are fun
[18:28] <~bynw> that's cool KK
[18:28] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> That is awsome KK, Cheers to Scott
[18:28] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> I assumed that the troops Arilan brought to the war against Wencit were the knights' service of Rhemuth, because the archbishop was off being all treasony.
[18:29] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> *the knights' service of the archbishophric of Rhemuth
[18:29] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Except Arilan was Bishop of Dhassa, so they were more likely to be Dhassan troops, I would think
[18:29] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Not yet he wasn't.
[18:29] <KK> I'm sharing your explorations, Bynw, though my Apple watch mostly just does ordinary things. But I like that it tells me the temperature along with the time, they way it's set up.
[18:30] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Thomas can'tthinkofhislastname was Dhassa. Arilan was auxiliary bishop of Rhemuth.
[18:30] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Ah, OK.  But Arilan had access to some sort of room in Dhassa with a transfer portal, so he seemed to be very familiar with the place
[18:30] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Cardiel.
[18:31] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I like the apple watch reading my Oxygen levels
[18:31] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> and heart rate
[18:31] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> It does heart rate.  wow
[18:31] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> Arilan and Thomas Cardiel had been friends for a long time. Arilan might have spruced up the guest room.
[18:31] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> It even does an EKG
[18:32] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I have a finger pulsamater for that. but now a watch
[18:32] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> oh, and from earlier: archbishopric. No H in there.
[18:32] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> oh, ECG
[18:32] <KK> I'm sure there were other militant orders, but I think at that time, they mostly called u secular forces.
[18:32] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I have a finger pulsometer for that. but not a watch
[18:33] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Very good, we just were not sure if any Militant orders were left in the Kingdom.
[18:33] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Or if there might be more by 1168.
[18:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> hehe,  but furtunatly even in 1168 Kelson is still king
[18:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Unless KK has other ideas we're not expecting. Muahahaha
[18:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> 48 years on the throne?!
[18:34] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> OH DEAR  but true
[18:34] <KK> I too like that the Apple watch calls up info on sleep patterns. It also notes heart rhythm, and keeps saying I'm still in Afib, though when I called my cardiologist's office, they said to wait and see what comes up at my next cardio visit, because it can take 4-6 weeks for the heart to settle down after an ablation.
[18:35] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Given that he became King at barely-14, it's quite plausible, TM
[18:35] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Yeah, he's only 60
[18:35] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> The boy was only 14 when he attained the throne.  he is still younger than I am  by alot
[18:36] <~bynw> it seems you have to sleep with the watch on to get all kinds of bio data but i usually charge mine overnight
[18:37] <KK> I have a charger set up y my comfy chair, so I can make sure it's charged before I go to bed.
[18:37] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> I charge mine in the morning so I can get the data.
[18:37] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Hi Everyone
[18:37] <KK> I check the data on my phone the next day.
[18:37] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Hi Jerusha
[18:37] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Hey J-sha!
[18:37] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Hello Jerusha
[18:38] <~bynw> hi Jerusha
[18:38] <KK> Hello Jerusha.
[18:38] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> I figured that I'd have to grab a family tree out of the back of *High Deryni* or something and do math, but KK helpfully provided reigns and lengths in appendix III of HD. Malcolm made 49. A couple of others made into 3x years. 6 had single digits.
[18:39] <KK> It was a hard time to be alive.
[18:39] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I'm not sure I want my watch to tell me how I'm doing.  I could become paranoid.
[18:39] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> It is hard when everyone else wants what you have.
[18:40] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> 3 of the 6 single digiters were Alroy, Javan, and Rhys -- you don't need TB or smallpox when you have regents.
[18:40] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> My watch only tells me stuff when I ask it
[18:40] <~bynw> i haven't warn a watch in decades
[18:40] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I always wear a watch
[18:40] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I didn't wear a watch for decades until I got my smartwatch
[18:40] <~bynw> but now that i have an apple watch ... i'm back to wearing one
[18:41] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Do to my hands always being in water at work.  I gave up wearing watches decades ago
[18:41] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yours doesn't have a water lock?
[18:41] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Good thing those apple watches are good with being underwater. 🙂
[18:41] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> My Samsung Galaxy Watch has a water lock so you can swim or shower while wearing it.
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I distroyed every watch i ever owned within months of getting it. even the water proof ones.
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I just have a fit bit.  It has a snorkle
[18:42] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I'll sometimes charge it while I'm in the shower, but if it's already high on charge, I'll just turn the water lock on and keep wearing it.
[18:43] <KK> I asked my cardiologist about the heart monitor that they advertise on TV, that supposedly creates a medical grade EKG, and he said he didn't recommend it because patients got paranoid. If one gets to the point of needing a pacemaker, then that gadget transmits the necessary data back to the doc's office.
[18:43] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> My Aunt Josie couldn't wear watches. They would always stop running after a few days.
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Aside from the wind-up sort, I mean. I think she could wear those.
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I agree, don't get one.  my mom has one  and she flips out every time she uses it.  Not worth the stress
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> I have rarely needed to know the time while showering ...
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> "My Aunt Josie couldn't wear watches. They would always stop running after a few days. Aside from the wind-up sort, I mean." She had a face that could stop a digital clock?
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> My watch informs me that my heart rate goes up to 140 when I shower, so that's always a little concerning. 🙂
[18:44] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> You are supposed to take the fit bit off for an hour or so everyday.  Works with shower time
[18:45] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's more for the convenience of not having to remember to put the watch back on, or forgetting where I put it when I took it off.
[18:45] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> I have never reallly figured outthe passage of minutes and hours.  It has been my detriment to going to work on time.
[18:45] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> So I only take it off when recharging it, in which case I know it's on the charger.
[18:45] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> It takes 2 hours to write a scene for FS.  15 minutes to eat an ice cream cone.  Does that help?
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <tm_9039> I have had to take glasses off when bathing or showering or whatever since about age 6, so I'm used to having to establish a few places to search for my glasses.
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> 😄
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Love it Jerusha
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Double that for me on the writing, and half it for the ice cream. 😄
[18:46] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It wouldn't help me. Some days it takes me five minutes to write a scene; other days, it takes me five days!
[18:47] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Evie, I believe I am now caught up on your stories.  so you can start the new one anytime.
[18:47] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I breezed through a scene yesterday morning before I went to the baby shower, but haven't managed to get a single word down today.
[18:47] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> These game scenes are tricky because they're really only drafts, but you want them as clean as a final draft.
[18:47] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Oh, I'm on chapter thirty-one of it already
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Oh my, Evie!
[18:48] <KK> I did put a different strap on mine. It came with a white vinyl one, which I didnt care for, but Anna got me a set of three metal mesh ones for Christmas.  I've been wearing the pink one, but have been eyeballing the beaded ones that turn the watch into a bracelet. But I rather think that would be too thick for everyday wear. Might get one for
[18:48] <KK> special occasions, and they're easy enough to change out.
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> NICED
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> NICE!
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I love my metal mesh band, KK.  The original band mine came with made my wrist feel raw in just over a week
[18:48] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Yeah, I swapped out my band as well.
[18:49] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> found something on Etsy that was really cute
[18:49] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Mesh bands don't fit me will.  Too big
[18:49] <~bynw> yeah i don't like the stap that came with mine. i'm ordering a replacement on amazon, one of those metal mesh kind too
[18:49] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Mine has a magnetic "clasp" that snugs it up even on my tiny little toddler wrists.
[18:49] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I think my wrists might be the only part of me that are still tiny. 😅
[18:49] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I relate to toddler wrists
[18:50] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Hot Tea time
[18:50] * ~bynw can't wait to meet some folks in person at derynicon this summer
[18:50] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Yeah, I wanna see everyone's toddler wrists. 🙂
[18:50] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Mind, the metal band is folded almost in half, with the magnetic bar that clasps it being right up with 1/4 inch of the watch. But it works.
[18:50] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> DH bought me a gold watch a long time ago.  The jeweler was furious when he had to remove so much of the gold band to fit me
[18:51] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I could probably wear a child sized band, or at least young teen size
[18:51] <~bynw> i'm sure less $$ for him
[18:51] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Yep
[18:52] <KK> Same here, Evie. I snug mine up to about the width of the magnetic clasp. That seems to be a good tightness.
[18:53] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479836521864888347/1348443654175588373/20250309_185300.jpg?ex=67cf7b84&is=67ce2a04&hm=d8f3d503836c3a57dcb090f9abc4ed201399c351d88f024b7ba1e06f31f9b0df&;
[18:54] <KK> I sold my good gold watch a couple of years ago, when it became too hard to read the time without putting on my readers,
[18:54] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> That rectangle on top is the magnet. The mesh band is folded double everywhere except that teeny bit you see between the magnet and the watch.
[18:54] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Same problem with my gold watch
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Evie that is huge
[18:55] <KK> Looks very like mine. The pink/rose color seems to be a good color for most of my clothing.
[18:55] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yeah. I need to find another watch face pic where I can put Gigi's photo on it but have bigger numbers for the time.
[18:56] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> It's a smartwatch, Laurna. I have to be able to read the displays and occasionally tap links on them. My fingers are small, but not toothpick sized.  😄
[18:56] <KK> I'd also like to get bigger numbers. Haven't discovered where those hide.
[18:56] <~bynw> i've been playing around with the watch faces to find something i really like
[18:56] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Different watch faces have different numbering styles. Some of the minimalistic ones have really big numbers to compensate.
[18:56] <~bynw> on your iphone > watch app > face gallery at the bottom of the watch app screen
[18:57] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Fit bit works well, except when it reminds me to move while writing something for FS
[18:57] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I very nearly got a Fitbit.  I was shopping around looking at those and the Galaxy Watches for a while, but went with the Galaxy since it syncs more things with my Galaxy phone
[18:58] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> And since mine was a refurb, it was about half the price of a new one, but with all of the functionality
[18:58] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> I just wanted something to tell time and  count steps
[18:59] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yeah, you don't need all the bells and whistles if those are the main things you need from one.
[19:00] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> One thing I liked about the Fitbits was that they had a few daintier sizes.
[19:00] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> You can also pretend to be Dick Tracy while talking on the phone to your watch. 🙂
[19:00] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Yes, that was a factor for me
[19:00] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> LOL! True, Nezz
[19:00] <~bynw> i needed the smartwatch since i was missing DW texts while at the store or other places. even if my phone volume was turned up and not silenced i generally wouldnt hear it go off due to the outside noice
[19:00] <~bynw> with the smart watch my wrist vibrates
[19:01] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Get a smarter watch and maybe your whole arm will vibrate
[19:01] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> It will also vibrate while you're driving to let you know when to turn.
[19:02] * CambersGhost [discord] <jerusha2> watches Bynw vibrate down the aisle at WalMart
[19:02] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> If you are using Google Maps, you mean?
[19:02] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Apple Maps in this case, but I expect it works the same with the Galaxy
[19:03] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Hm. I normally use Waze, but I'll have to check if Google Maps does the same.
[19:03] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Google owns Waze, I think
[19:04] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> If it does, it needs to communicate better with itself, because sometimes the maps are more accurate on one than the other
[19:06] <~bynw> i've noticed that sometimes google maps is better than apple maps and vis versa
[19:08] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> So KK, has Daphne convinced you that the cleanup has gone far enough and she wants to you start writing again? 😉
[19:09] * KK () Quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds)
[19:09] <~bynw> ack!
[19:09] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Oh good,  my Wifi is working again.
[19:10] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Maybe you can find an inexpensive laptop and lap desk and write from your comfy chair. Daphne can help.
[19:11] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I'm currently sitting on my bed with my laptop on my lap desk.
[19:11] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Comfy chairs are really good that way. I love lap desks.
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[19:12] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I haven't had a stationary desktop computer in years here at the house. I prefer to be able to write wherever I feel comfortable, which was pretty much never when I was sitting in the office chair at the desk, even though it's not a bad chair. It's just not as comfortable as other places I'd rather sit in the evening after sitting in an office chair at a desk all day.
[19:13] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Is that KK rejoining us?
[19:13] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> If it is, she likely missed those latest bits of the conversation
[19:13] <web92> I'm thinking to get a laptop again. Dell has a basic one that isn't very expensive.
[19:14] * ~bynw likes Dells
[19:14] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> not Dolls?  😉
[19:14] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Yeah, if you don't need all the bells and whistles, then something that will do work processing, browsing, and email should be all you need.
[19:15] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> We need a SuperBynw Action Figure
[19:15] <web92> I ducked out for a pit stop, and the computer apparently decided to shut down. Ma be a feature of the latest update.
[19:15] * web92 is now known as KK
[19:15] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Or if you wait for November, there are great sales on electronics at that time of year
[19:16] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I bought this laptop at a month-long "Black Friday Sale."
[19:16] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> For several hundred dollars off the original price.
[19:16] <KK> Yeah, but I really need one for my trip back from Sacramento on the Amtrak.
[19:17] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Ah.  When is that planned again?
[19:17] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Universities often sell decent used computers that are only 3 years old and quite inexpensive.
[19:17] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> If your area has a tax free weekend shortly before the school term starts, that's another good time to buy computers
[19:18] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Since they count as "educational supplies" even if you aren't planning on going back to school
[19:18] <KK> The Writers of the Future trip is April 7-11, but I'm returning via Sacramento to visit my sister for a few days, and will take the train back from there.
[19:18] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> I discovered that by accident one year when I ended up saving a big chunk on buying a laptop that weekend
[19:20] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Ah.  Well, there's also other sources for good but discounted computers and laptops.  My DH has bought several from Newegg that were refurbished, but worked good as new and I think even had a limited time warranty. But since they weren't brand new, they were less expensive as the same computer new from the factory.
[19:22] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Ah.  Well, there's also other sources for good but discounted computers and laptops.  My DH has bought several from Newegg that were refurbished, but worked good as new and I think even had a limited time warranty. But since they weren't brand new, they were less expensive than the same computer new from the factory.
[19:24] <KK> I need to check out the options.
[19:24] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Well, I am going to toddle off.  Have a good week, everyone!
[19:24] <CambersGhost> [discord] <marc_du_temple> You too
[19:24] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Jerusha, you have yourself a great day!
[19:24] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Hi - bye Marc!
[19:24] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Granted, you might need a decent enough laptop for us to get you hooked on Sims 4 at DeryniCon.  😉
[19:25] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Give those hamsters reward peanuts!
[19:25] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Bye Jerusha!
[19:25] <CambersGhost> [discord] <jerusha2> Nighters!
[19:25] <KK> I also need to toddle off.  See you guys next week, by which I should have some figures for hotels for Derynicon.
[19:25] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> OK
[19:25] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> Fabulous!
[19:25] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Good to see you
[19:26] <KK> Nighters.
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Oh good,  computer is finally working again
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> night, and have a great week
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Good night
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> wb Laurna
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> Your computer stopped working?
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <evie.delacourt> No bueno
[19:26] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight, and disappears in a shower of violet sparkles.
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <stnezz> violet sparkles! Yay!
[19:26] <CambersGhost> [discord] <laurnarose> Wi fi crashed 3times. the computer restart did a huge firmware update
[19:26] <KK> Ta.
[19:27] * KK () Quit (Quit: Client closed)