KK Chat -- 4 Dec 2011

[DesertRose]

[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:11:37 PM] Join KK has joined this channel.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:11:50 PM] <KK> Hello, folks.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:11:51 PM] <Alkari> Hello KK
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:11:51 PM] <the_Bee> Hi KK! How was Darkover?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:12:18 PM] <KK> It was good.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:12:34 PM] <KK> Annie's memorial was a bit sad, of course, but good memories.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:12:52 PM] <Alkari> Yes, I was thinking of that last weekend
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:12:56 PM] <the_Bee> She's left quite a legacy.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:13:20 PM] <Alkari> Indeed - one of the early 'world makers'in SF/fantasy
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:13:36 PM] <KK> Yes, quite a remarkable legacy.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:13:58 PM] <the_Bee> My favorites were the Brainship series.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:14:25 PM] <KK> The Ship Who Sang is my personal favorite of everything she wrote.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:14:35 PM] <Alkari> Oh yes - I love that.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:14:56 PM] <Alkari> such a fabulous concept
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:15:10 PM] <KK> I expect she'll be best remembered for her Pern books, but I never really got into those.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:15:42 PM] <the_Bee> neither did I. They seemed to be aimed more at children.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:16:24 PM] <Alkari> I enjoyed some of them
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:16:39 PM] <Alkari> Especially The WHite Dragon
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:16:51 PM] <the_Bee> Speaking of children, in your opinions is a bright 10-year-old too young for Deryni Rising?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:16:56 PM] <jemler> hi kk, bee.\
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:17:02 PM] <the_Bee> hi jemler
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:17:12 PM] <jemler> i'm re-reading Pern.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:17:32 PM] <the_Bee> How old were you when you first read it?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:17:53 PM] <jemler> i'm ageless. but it was about 20 yrs ago.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:18:39 PM] <Alkari> I wouldn't have thought so, Bee
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:18:55 PM] <KK> A bright ten-year-old would probably enjoy it. The subsequent ones get a bit more intense.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:19:19 PM] <the_Bee> I asked her mother about it last summer. She thought she might like it. She's a big Harry Potter fan.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:19:40 PM] <KK> If she's read Harry Potter, she'd probably do fine with DR.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:20:04 PM] <Alkari> If the kid can cope with all the HP books, especially the last couple. then DR shouldn't be a problem!!
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:20:25 PM] <the_Bee> DR's a good introduction, because it works as a stand-alone as well as an introduction to the series.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:20:27 PM] <Alkari> KK, how did your own Reading at Darkover go? And what did you end up reading?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:21:00 PM] <the_Bee> thnks for the advice. I'vwe been wanting to introduce a new generation to your books, KK.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:21:02 PM] Join Camber has joined this channel (~).
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:21:09 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Camber
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:21:16 PM] <Alkari> Hello Camber
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:21:20 PM] <KK> I ended up reading a chapter from the middle of the book, when Alaric and his father are on their way back to Rhemuth from Coroth by ship.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:21:22 PM] <Camber> Hello Everyone
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:21:46 PM] <Alkari> Oh great - can you share anything from that with us now? *pretty please*
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:22:12 PM] <KK> Well, let's just say that Alaric has a serious run-in with Bishop de Nore.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:22:18 PM] <Alkari> Uh oh
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:22:23 PM] <the_Bee> Spoiler: They reached harbor safely.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:22:24 PM] <Alkari> Poor kid
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:22:57 PM] <jemler> Don't tell us the end, Bee!
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:23:05 PM] <KK> Oh, yes. It happens when they dock at the harbor at Nyford.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:23:18 PM] <Alkari> Hey, they even reached Rhemuth safely!
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:23:22 PM] <the_Bee> <evilgrin>
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:24:19 PM] <Alkari> Alaric must have some pretty painful memories of childhood, what with being forced to watch Jorian's execution and such
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:24:42 PM] <DesertRose> Hi, KK. Sorry, I was AFK working on supper.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:25:08 PM] <Camber> That was grisly just reading about it, can't imagine having to watch it
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:25:09 PM] <jemler> I say it was Alaric who shouted 'Sacerdos en Eternum'
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:25:15 PM] <the_Bee> Did they sail on the Rhaffalia, or was she launched later?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:25:37 PM] <KK> They're on a Corwyn ship called the Gryphon.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:25:49 PM] <jemler> Fitting name.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:26:01 PM] <the_Bee> ah. witgh a gryphon figurehead?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:26:13 PM] <Alkari> of course
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:26:13 PM] <Camber> One would hope
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:26:31 PM] <KK> He meets up with a young Henry Kirby, who later captains Rhaffalia.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:26:56 PM] <the_Bee> Oh yes--whose sone died saving Alaric from an assassin.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:27:06 PM] <KK> Kirby is the steersman on the Gwyphon, and he plays cardounet.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:27:08 PM] <Alkari> No, that was Richard Fitzwilliam
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:27:22 PM] <the_Bee> oh yes, my mistake
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:27:35 PM] <KK> But his son is in that scene.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:28:02 PM] <Alkari> oh good. Nice to meet some people who actually survive to the 'later' books, KK
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:28:05 PM] <the_Bee> as a cabin boy?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:28:09 PM] <jemler> if you want to scare people with a fugrehead, you could always nail de Nore to the prow and use him!
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:28:32 PM] <KK> Not yet. He still has dastardly deeds to perform.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:28:57 PM] <jemler> drat! still the 'yet' sounds hopeful!
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:29:04 PM] <Alkari> Poor Kenneth must also have had some really worrying times with his young son
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:29:23 PM] <Camber> Bee, I saw your comment about Araxie before I tweaked the energies of the portal the other day. I agree with you.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:29:24 PM] <the_Bee> Was DeNore the one who introduced merasha in the communion wine?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:29:39 PM] <jemler> probably not.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:29:50 PM] <the_Bee> What did I say? I don't remember.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:30:17 PM] <KK> Not sure he actually knows that the mechanism is; just that Deryni get betrayed.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:30:29 PM] <Camber> I seem to remember that special communion wine was used at ordinations.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:30:37 PM] <KK> Yes.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:31:38 PM] <Alkari> so certain high-ups in the Church would have to know what was done to doctor it
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:31:41 PM] <jemler> funny they never seemed to notice that the ordained Deryni were found out AFTER they had been ordained.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:31:49 PM] <DesertRose> Okay, got to go AFK again. KP calleth.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:32:08 PM] <KK> But I think there's a special set of brothers in an inner order of one of the religious houses, who doctor the wine.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:32:10 PM] <Camber> Would have been nice if the Council had been able to switch that wine, I think Jorian would have been a good priest and advocate
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:32:23 PM] <Alkari> I suppose too that many Deryni simply didn't even try to get into the priesthood
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:32:33 PM] <the_Bee> a sad might-have-been
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:33:29 PM] <KK> Not too many tried, and they didn't know how the detection was being done.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:33:33 PM] <Alkari> Ah - a secret inner sect, KK. Interesting!
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:34:01 PM] <jemler> that was mentioned in 'The Priesting of Arilan'
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:34:47 PM] <KK> Yes, that story pretty much tells what was being done, but not exactly by whom.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:35:18 PM] <Camber> Not necessarily a sect, could be that there were instructions that certain ingredients were to be added to ordination communion wine
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:35:24 PM] <the_Bee> not my favorite story: the miracle was a bit too deus-ex-machina-ish.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:35:25 PM] <Alkari> It will be an interesting ongoing issue for Bradene and Cardiel in the new regime, trying to weed out the rabid Deryni haters in the Church and gradually introduce a more harmonious regime
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:35:58 PM] <KK> Yes.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:36:24 PM] <Alkari> Repealing the Statutes of Ramos is one thing, but changing attitudes is never as easy as changing the actual letter of the law
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:36:36 PM] <KK> True.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:36:45 PM] <the_Bee> Camber--I'm still trying to remember what I said about Araxie.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:36:55 PM] <Camber> Do we know 'how' merasha was made? Was it brewed or infused or cooked?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:37:11 PM] <KK> Haven't specified.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:37:22 PM] <Camber> Bee is was A-racks-ee vs a-rash-ee
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:37:34 PM] <KK> Deliberately.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:38:01 PM] <the_Bee> Thanks, Camber
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:38:29 PM] <KK> Technucak pronunciation, I've learned, is A-rash-ee, but I think we're all used to A-rax-ee by now, so that's how it is.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:38:49 PM] <KK> Technical. (Cat is helping type. Gud.)
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:39:03 PM] <the_Bee> We'll assume it was Her Majesty's preference.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:39:04 PM] Join derynifanatic64 has joined this channel (Mibbit@F8E647.70AEDE.ABA851.2F159F).
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:39:07 PM] <Alkari> LOL Feline assistance always 'interesting'
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:39:09 PM] <KK> Gus.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:39:20 PM] <Camber> Hi DF
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:39:22 PM] <Alkari> They DO like to help you!!
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:39:26 PM] <derynifanatic64> hi again
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:39:35 PM] <Alkari> Re-hi DF64
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:39:42 PM] <the_Bee> WB DF
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:40:02 PM] <Alkari> Have you done any more writing since Darkover, KK?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:40:27 PM] <KK> Only a little. Lots of catching up to do, after being away for 4 days.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:40:35 PM] <Camber> Most canines don't try to help with typing...they do make connecting chew cords interesting though.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:40:38 PM] <Alkari> Oh yes.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:40:47 PM] <derynifanatic64>
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:41:46 PM] <derynifanatic64> anyone gonna watch "Neverland" on SYFY tonight
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:42:01 PM] <the_Bee> what time?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:42:12 PM] <KK> What time is it on? I want to watch Once Upon a TIme at 8.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:42:18 PM] <Alkari> Our old dog used to 'help'by putting her paw on your knee - as she was a German Shepherd, it was a very large paw
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:42:30 PM] <derynifanatic64> 9pm after once upon a time
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:42:40 PM] <KK> Ah. I'll probably watch, then.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:42:44 PM] <derynifanatic64> you can watch both
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:42:53 PM] <derynifanatic64> and tomorrow nite too
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:43:15 PM] <Camber> Let's not overdo it DF ;-P
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:43:26 PM] <derynifanatic64> its a 2 part miniseries
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:43:26 PM] <the_Bee> I'll check my schedule to see what else is opposite it.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:43:50 PM] <the_Bee> I can record 2 shows at once.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:43:53 PM] <Alkari> must borrow Neverland on DVD - once I reconnect my DVD player, that is
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:16 PM] <jemler> Neverland is a 2 part series on SyFy. part 1 tonigth at 9 part 2 tomorrow.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:16 PM] <KK> I really need to learn how to record on my cable setup.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:18 PM] Join Evie has joined this channel (~).
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:23 PM] <derynifanatic64> hi evie
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:24 PM] <Alkari> Hi EVie
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:28 PM] <Evie> hi
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:30 PM] <jemler> hi evie
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:37 PM] <the_Bee> Is this the one where the lost boys return to neverland?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:44 PM] <the_Bee> Hi Evie
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:44:48 PM] <derynifanatic64> the origins of peter pan
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:45:05 PM] <the_Bee> new then? good!
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:45:06 PM] <derynifanatic64> how he first found neverland with the lost boys
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:45:07 PM] <Camber> I know that in the books, I had a moving portal in my living quarters, is there anything in the lore about portable portals?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:45:13 PM] <Camber> Hi Evie.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:45:19 PM] <jemler> both parts of neverland are on tomorrow at 7 - 11 pm.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:45:33 PM] <derynifanatic64> he finds neverland with a magical orb apparently
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:45:35 PM] <jemler> Camber the Heretic.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:45:48 PM] <Evie> a portal has to be grounded somehow, doesn't it? I imagine that might make a portable one difficult
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:46:20 PM] <the_Bee> Camber managed it.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:46:48 PM] <Alkari> But very few would have his training and abilities
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:46:56 PM] <the_Bee> Maybe the platform was on stone columns?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:47:04 PM] <KK> We know that temporary ones can be set up, and we know that the location can be somewhat altered or rotated. But I don't think they're portable as such.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:47:04 PM] <Evie> Must go back and re-read those Camber books sometime, now that I've found them again.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:47:25 PM] <Camber> Well, most of us lived in stone buildings that were pretty well tied to the ground.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:47:28 PM] <jemler> so you can't place a portal on a tile, and move the tile?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:47:48 PM] <the_Bee> Yes. it IIRC it rotated among the four columns of the tower/platform/whatever.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:48:15 PM] <Camber> Most portals were a large stone or tile that bound its energy.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:48:31 PM] <the_Bee> or earth
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:49:05 PM] <Camber> so why couldn't you bind the energy in the stone/tile and then move the stone?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:49:05 PM] <KK> Which means that the whole platform was part of the Portal, and it was merely the focus of the energy that shifted. I think that would be very difficuklt to do.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:49:25 PM] <Alkari> Steve Jobs moves to Gwynedd and creates an iPhone portal
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:49:51 PM] <Evie> Steve would need to have learned Camber's trick before his death.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:49:56 PM] <Camber> That's bordering on a Mackerel Mackeroo Alkari
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:49:57 PM] <KK> A portable tile or stone wouldn't work. Unlike a portable altar stone.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:49:59 PM] <Alkari> Of course.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:50:26 PM] * Alkari ducks at thought of mackerel
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:50:39 PM] * Evie quacks at the thought of ducks
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:50:42 PM] <KK> One has to set reasonable limits on the abilities of one's superheroes.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:50:47 PM] <Alkari> Yes.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:50:59 PM] <derynifanatic64> :
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:51:31 PM] <Alkari> KK, any thoughts as to where an old Portal would be in Coroth Castle? I assume Alaric would have found one in the Camber grotto by now?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:51:44 PM] <Evie> Walking around with a giant S (or in this case, D) on the tunic isn't all that discreet. ;-)
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:52:18 PM] Join Evie_ has joined this channel (~).
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:52:22 PM] <KK> There really ought to be a Portal at Coroth, that Alaric just hasn't found. Or maybe there was one and it was destroyed.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:52:29 PM] <the_Bee> I wonder how and when the knowledge was lost> Maybe someone died before telling someone else?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:52:31 PM] <jemler> hi Evil Evie
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:52:31 PM] <Alkari> In Alaric's case, it's just a large green gryphon
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:52:33 PM] <KK> That's probably the likely explanation.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:53:07 PM] <Camber> Just hypothesizing the practicality of trying to make a portal portable. Would have help in the whole Bran Coris mess.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:53:18 PM] <Alkari> Who would have destroyed itKK? The CC after Lewys ap Norfal, and following Stiofan's death?
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:53:24 PM] <KK> Whoops, timer just dinged. Gotta go rescue dinner before Once Upon a Time starts.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:53:26 PM] <jemler> i'm surprised Richenda has set up a portal at Coroth yet.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:53:28 PM] <Camber> help= helped
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:53:38 PM] <jemler> yep 5 min to go
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:53:47 PM] <the_Bee> enjoy your meal and your show< KK Thanks for coming.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:53:55 PM] <KK> See you guys next week.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:53:56 PM] <jemler> nite kk
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:54:04 PM] <Evie_> goodnight KK
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:54:06 PM] <Alkari> Bye KK - good to see you
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:54:07 PM] <Camber> Nite, KK
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:54:09 PM] <derynifanatic64> bye
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:54:16 PM] * KK steps onto her Portal, waves goodnight,a nd disappears in a shower of green sparkles.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:54:22 PM] <KK> Nighters.
[Sunday, December 04, 2011] [07:54:24 PM] Quit KK has left this server (Quit: ).